Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Hoogterp
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 14:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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CV-like article on a subject who fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 08:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Strong Delete Subject, woefully fails WP:AUTHOR and also is lacking in notability.Celestina007 (talk) 7:57, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I'm unable to find sufficient secondary sources. Innisfree987 (talk) 03:51, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
- Neutral The secondary sources referenced in the article are: 1. A Bloomberg biography, 2. A Fortune article, and 3. a Men's Health article. (Also, an appearance on the today show.) I did not find any other reputable third-party sources on the first three pages of results from a Google search of his name. -kslays (talk • contribs) 18:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Newbie here. Full disclosure: I work at Own The Room, where Bill is currently CEO. As far as I can see, this article meets the criteria for WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. For WP:GNG, in addition to the Bloomberg/Fortune/Men's Health articles and Today Show mentioned above, he's appeared in Fast Company, Parade, and NY Daily News -- all major outlets. For WP:AUTHOR, he is cited by peers, including [Ben Casnocha] and Sheryl Sandberg and Lean In, and has presented a new way of looking at approaching public speaking in the articles and media appearances above. Plus, his other work in founding and/or leading major organizations is noteworthy. He ran the initial pilot of Do Something, which is now a major, national organization. And he was a founding member of Cafe Media, which is #23 on the comScore 100 ranking... not exactly an insignificant startup. -9been (talk) 05:49, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- 9been as a newbie, I think you have not read what WP:GNG clearly states. I can also perceive you're having a WP:COI due to your claim that
I work at Own The Room, where Bill is currently CEO
; with this edit your only edit after creating your account four days ago? The sources you and kslays listed are however non-reliable and only contain mentions of the subject.—Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 07:19, 16 June 2017 (UTC) - Yes I'm afraid this comment also confirms my impression this is a promotional entry--the arguments presented do not indicate significant, independent secondary source coverage of Hoogterp from which we could write an encyclopedia entry, but rather a pitch about why he is someone that major outlets, academic journals and the like should be writing profiles of, books about, etc. Perhaps at a later date more such material will be available. But what's currently available are mostly not even secondary sources about Hoogterp, but instead quote Hoogterp talking about a different subject, or are primary sources written by Hoogterp himself, and thus don't suffice for us to write an independent, neutral description of Hoogterp's biography. Innisfree987 (talk) 15:39, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- 9been as a newbie, I think you have not read what WP:GNG clearly states. I can also perceive you're having a WP:COI due to your claim that
- Delete. as promotion of someone not yet notable. The refs are not sufficient. DGG ( talk ) 13:17, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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